Mark Collins: [00:00:00] What most people don't realize and I tell them all the time is this. You're the answer to the circumstance you're walking into. You're not the question to be figured out. And in that place, even if you don't believe it, believe me in it and start to walk towards it as if it were true Your value comes from who you're created to be before you've done a thing. When we start to unpack that, Now all of a sudden our accomplishments can be a benefit and blessing, not a substitute for an identity

It's time to reinvent.

Priscilla Shumba: Welcome to the Lessons of Entrepreneurship, the Journey of Reinvention. I promised you phenomenal guests. We're on mission. It's faith and business, and I have Mark Collins here. Mark is a business and life coach, a pastor, a husband, a father, and he's the author of the book, [00:01:00] Life Mastery, Living Life by Design, Not by Default.

That got me. Living life by design, not by default. I'm honored to have you here, Mark. Please let them know who you are and what's your mission.

Mark Collins: Thank you, Brazil. That is definitely it. Passionate about seeing people set free from the things that have been standing in the way of the life that they're created for. The people I typically deal with are folks who are like myself, who have had business success or they want to have business success.

They're striving beyond what's comfortable and what's common. And in the place they start to find areas where Maybe there's things that are standing in the way, whether it's imposter syndrome, fear of failure, whatever the thing is there's always those things that stand in the way our success and what I call with the people I work with being able to unleash your hero in hiding.

So my goal and role is to give them tools and strategies to be able to make that happen in their own life.

Priscilla Shumba: It's so often that for myself, I encounter people that I'm so struck by how talented the person is.

And for [00:02:00] some reason, I think the things we don't see, for some reason, they just can't step into what they are because everyone else can see how talented they are.

So I'm so grateful , to have you here.

Mark Collins: thank

you 

Priscilla Shumba: I think You present a counterculture perspective where we often think that to change our lives, we need to be doing certain things. You said, changing your life one thought at a time. We often think one action.

I gotta join the gym. I gotta, go to a mastermind. But changing your life one thought at a time. Please, I'll let you go into it. What is that about?

Mark Collins: Yeah, that's a great question. There's no harm in the things that you and I have talked about, which is being able to have strategies and understandings and tools and mechanisms to be able to try and get better at what we're doing. The challenge is none of them overcome what we believe we are.

And so what we talk about with the people that I work with is understanding that you're either living from who you're created to be, or typically what your life has told you. Priscilla, we all have a [00:03:00] past. We all have experiences. We all have things that we've done or things that were said over us.

And unfortunately, we start to take those on as if they were our identity, right? We struggle in school and then we believe that we're maybe not as smart as everybody else. Certainly myself. I had some struggles in school when I was growing up as well. In those places, you start to think I have to work harder because I'm not a smart as or you don't strive for those things.

Like you talked about people with great talent. But at the end of the day, if you don't believe in yourself, then you won't actually use the things that you have been created with to create success or achievement or that artistic endeavor or whatever the thing is that is your skill set.

And so for us, one of the major things you do is to start to unpack and understand that it's not a skill set you gain because there's a lot of people that just get great at knowledge, but they won't use it for application. And it's the application, not in understanding, Oh, okay how do I understand what this book is doing and created in my life?

It's actually how do I, have a belief system? That I'm willing to [00:04:00] do it. I worked with a guy who was amazingly successful and in his success, one of the things that was holding him back for even higher levels of that was a belief system and who he was. His past telling him that you failed in the past, your previous businesses haven't worked out.

And so in many cases, I'm sure people like this as well, Priscilla, where you hesitate. For the big goals for the big dreams and the big moments in your life, because you have a past that has told you something different. It all starts with your thoughts. What I tell the people that I work with is who you think you are, you'll become so that person on the inside or that big vision or dream or that wonderful thing that you think that you can add to society, right?

The First and best way to actually apply all of the things you're able to do to make it happen in your life is to align your thoughts. with the person that you're created to be, not what your life has told you are.

Priscilla Shumba: Such a powerful message. Mark, I even think of an extra layer being a person of color being a person [00:05:00] from the African continent they say the third world where maybe you don't know anyone, you've never seen anyone do the thing. You haven't even heard of anyone doing the thing that you feel, you could do.

You, don't even know how to use the talent because you've never seen it. And it's, so powerful that you say, It's about one thought at a time. I like that you reference Proverbs 23 7, whereas a man thinks in his heart. So he is, and I think that's really powerful for our audience of Christian entrepreneurs.

I'd love more for you to tell me, your book is called Life Mastery. to how this book came to be and what led you on this journey.

Mark Collins: I tell people that my course, Life Mastery, in this book, Life Mastery, Living Life by Design, Not by Default, it wasn't something that I wanted to share with other people out of a wealth of knowledge, although I think I do have a good amount of knowledge, but it really started with a journey for myself.

Growing up in a household where I didn't feel like I measured up to my father and or always as a young man trying to do that [00:06:00] and growing up with some academic issues and struggling a little bit in school not, horribly. But just enough to not be as good as the other students around me.

And I'm not sure where you're at in Australia, but in the United States, believe it or not, in our school system, a lot of times other students aren't that kind. Sometimes they'll let you know if you're not doing as well, or you're different, or you're not as advanced as they are.

And growing up in that environment, for me, it was really trying to figure out How to have the person who was on the inside become the person who was on the outside. I believe that there was more than the life that I was living. I didn't think that I was less than other people and that I couldn't succeed in my life, that I couldn't measure up to my father and become somebody of success.

So for me the way to try and overcome that was through academics and through entrepreneurship and try and become a business owner and then athletics trying to. Prove that I'm somebody who can gain those accolades and those trophies and things in my life. And I had , my level of success in each of those areas, but found out like, [00:07:00] A person that I worked with, a guy named Brett, who none of those things overcame the belief system that I was about to fail, or I wasn't going to be able to succeed, or that next business transaction was going to work out horribly, and I was going to bankrupt all the people that are counting on me.

And just like with Brett, the guy that I work with, it's really starting to unpack who you are apart from your things. love that you talked about Proverbs 23 7 because that's a foundational one for us as a man thinks in his heart. So is he come to find out in my own life as I grew up, became an adult and tried the things that all the world says you do to become somebody of significance.

And that didn't happen. Like another student of ours Vance, you start to find out that maybe there's something more than those things in my life. And what you need to do is you need to start to unpack who you're created to be versus what your life has told you. And so I was able to do that in my life.

I was able to use the Word of God as instruction, not just philosophy, and pull out those things like Proverbs 23, 7 or that, that scripture that says that the words of my mouth and the meditations of [00:08:00] my heart, the things that I say and the things that I think, be pleasing in your sight, O Lord, my God.

How can they be pleasing to Him if what I'm saying about myself, what I'm thinking about myself doesn't align with who He says that I am? And I had a revelation, and it was this, that if my thoughts don't align with who God says that I am, maybe they're lying to me. And as I started to unpack it and other tools and strategies that I found in the word of God, I started to see that young man show up.

I started to be a person who wasn't just confident because I said positive things over and over again, but because I continue to show up, I continue to do brave and uncomfortable things in my life. And in your own life, Priscilla when you find something that you think is amazing, you want to share it with everybody.

So for me, it was word of mouth and sharing what I learned and pointing out where the Word of God would really align with mastering the things in your life, including your thoughts. And then I created a structure around it. And that was Life Mastery, the course, and then afterwards, Life Mastery, the book that I used and that we're [00:09:00] talking about today.

Priscilla Shumba: I'm so thankful that you've chosen to share that with other people. There's so much that you said that sometimes you watch on YouTube and you're watching billionaires and millionaires, people that you look up to, wow, they've reached the pinnacle, especially in business of success.

And you hear them say such a sad thing about what they believe about themselves. And it saddens you to say, wow, with all that, but like you said, the heart. And I'm interested because you talked about how you've been on this journey and to the person who's listening, who's that's me. And what can I do? You talk a lot about imposter syndrome. So let's start there. 

Mark Collins: Yeah. 

Priscilla Shumba: overcoming imposter syndrome, probably what it is, how it manifests, 

Mark Collins: . It's a word that a lot of people use and I think we don't really define it really well, which is fine. There's always the name brand things for all of our lives, right? The things that we use to say that this is something that I'm struggling with.

I mentioned a couple of them. One of them was fear of failure. Another one could be imposter syndrome [00:10:00] andimposter syndrome really can come down to just being this. I don't believe I'm qualified for the things I'm doing or the life that I'm living. could be in relationship. One of the people that we had that we really had a lot of great success with.

One of my clients was a guy named Vance, who showed up in his business and showed up in the things that he did as an entrepreneur. But he didn't really show up in the same way at home. He was guarded and distant, right? Again, we're either living from who we're created to be or what our past has told us.

And relationally, his past told him that you can't count on somebody in relationship, and you don't want to give too much of yourself away because you'll get hurt. And so that really carried itself into his marriage and his life with his children. And he found out that wasn't the case, that he could actually show up as who he was.

And there are people that are doing other things. But really it comes down to this, who are you? The challenge with imposter syndrome is you believe you're not qualified or you believe you're not smart enough, you're not good enough , if they only knew who I was, it wouldn't put me into this position of prominence in my life and what it really comes down to is an [00:11:00] identity statement.

Who are you apart from your things? And so one of the tools that we use to unpack it is I invite people to create an I am statement and it really comes down to this Priscilla. Who are you apart from your things? Your title, your role, your income, your possessions, right? The things that a lot of times the world and even ourselves as Christians think that now I'm important because myself included that journey I talked to you about about trying to succeed academically and as an entrepreneur and, in athletics, it was all about when I have success in this area, I'll be somebody of value, somebody of worth.

And you start to think that those things make you who you are. What the truth is that you have those things because of who you are. And so we unpack it with an I Am statement. Who are you apart from the things that you do? That's like you talked about before and some other things we do. That's a mindset shift that says that I'm more than the things I'm creating, more than the accomplishments I have.

I was [00:12:00] just like with Jesus in Matthew 3 and 4 where Jesus is baptized and He comes up out of the water and there's a voice from heaven that says this is my beloved son in whom I'm well pleased. That was God bringing value and identity to him before he started his ministry. And that was certainly a picture of that relationship, but it was also those instructions I talked about in the Bible.

It was an instruction to understand that's who God sees us and that's the value we have. Your value comes from who you're created to be before you've done a thing. When we start to unpack that, Now all of a sudden our accomplishments can be a benefit and blessing, not a substitute for an identity.

Priscilla Shumba: as You become an adult, sometimes you begin to question you think because it was said by someone who loves you, it must be the truth. You think it was said by someone who cared for you so much, and the person you think is the only person or the only group of people who care about you, it must be the truth.

Mark Collins: Right. 

Priscilla Shumba: one truth. I love that [00:13:00] you share that, about Jesus, This happened before even the ministry, before the doing. A confirmation of who he already was, the I Am. I'm so grateful for that. If you could please, speak to the person who's thinking, I am struggling even though I appear to have bits of success here and there.

But I'm struggling inside. 

Mark Collins: Yeah.

Priscilla Shumba: I hear of the I Am statement. And how do I create this new? Identity for myself or if I could hear someone who, you know, something that will set someone to know what to do and the how to do. 

Mark Collins: That's a wonderful point. And the truth of the matter is I've been where they're at. Again, this was a journey I was on before it was instruction I was giving others. And I remember those times when I was in , small business, with my wife. My wife and I created a business. It was actually the fifth one that succeeded not the first one.

Great. Understanding for a lot of people, hopefully to understand that just because the first thing you don't succeed at doesn't mean you're not qualified for [00:14:00] that, whatever vocation, that entrepreneurship, that business kind of that you desire to have in your life or that artistic endeavor. I don't know anybody personally, and I'm sure you don't either, because I haven't found anybody yet who was amazingly successful.

The very first time they tried no harm, no issues, no challenges that came up. We all have those challenges. And so I remember that time when we were in business with a successful life. Struggling and finances are here and there your bills are always coming in on time and needing to be paid.

Employees are needing to be paid as well and trying to figure out where the finances are coming in because revenue wasn't there, but the bills were. Those notes that were coming due that you needed and waking up at three o'clock in the morning thinking that I thought we were going to do this.

So I expanded in an area and it spent extra money. And now the revenue isn't there. And right. A lot of times we go through these challenges in our life. And I was there at three o'clock in the morning, waking up thinking, Oh, my gosh, what have I done? We don't have the income. And if this doesn't happen, then we're going to have to go bankrupt and close the doors and [00:15:00] write those disastrous kind of thought processes that you have.

So I've been where those people are at, where maybe you're in the middle of it. You're in the middle of trying to do it and it's not working and now all of a sudden you think Maybe this isn't for me or you're starting out and you're thinking well, what if you know again as you think in your heart So are you that scripture?

Really is understanding that your thoughts drive your actions and your thoughts drive Who you believe you are and the things you believe you're going to be able to do and so how do you get to a? Point of being able to overcome it The first thing I would tell people is this the, driver that started me on my journey and kept me in that journey until I got the, what I call transformation, right?

God desires for us to have transformation, not change. Again, there's scripture that says that, we're supposed to renew our mind and that renewal comes from a desire to have transformation, not change. Change is just a habit you keep to try and maintain a habit. It's not a journey towards the person that you're created to be.

That sanctification journey they talk about in scriptures. It's a big word. It just means that you're created [00:16:00] to be more and more like Christ, but it also means you're creating more and more like yourself, like who you're created to be and not what your life has told you. So for us, it starts with that.

First understanding that, that belief, that person on the inside, that I believe there's more than what I'm struggling with, what I'm challenged with, what I'm walking through. First and foremost, you're right. I believe for every Christian, that's the spirit on the inside, crying out, telling you there's more than here.

Move forward. And how we do it for the people I work with is first off, writing down an IM statement. It's literally writing down on either your, iPad, your phone, your computer pencil and paper. If you like, who are you created to be? And as a believer, journey should always start with the conversation with God.

And it really can start with a simple statement like this. God, who did you make me to be? And then start writing. God's talking more than we're listening sometimes, and he's reaching out more than we see. So in that place, it's starting to write down, okay, who am I apart from my things? It's not your accomplishments.

It's Your character. [00:17:00] It's the value and the worth of the person that you are. It's the compassion that's in your heart. It's the empathy and love and care that you use. It's the strength and the fortitude that you show in things. It's not the outward. It's not the accomplishments.

The accomplishments just come from the task. Who you are is the person that shows up. What most people don't realize and I tell them all the time is this. You're the answer to the circumstance you're walking into. You're not the question to be figured out. And in that place, even if you don't believe it, believe me in it and start to walk towards it as if it were true.

And so for us, it starts with that. And I am statement. And if I could give a couple others really quickly. The second one is I asked them to do a celebration list. I've done over 100. I asked them to only do 20. Whoever was working with me and I'd invite anybody who's listening to this as well. And the celebration isn't 

a celebration of your accomplishments. It really is the answer to this question. What do you love about you? And so this helps you to understand identity more than accomplishment, [00:18:00] because the truth of the matter is a lot of times I'm sure it's the same for people Priscilla, when I look in the mirror or somebody that I work with, I tell them to look in the mirror.

What's the first thing is it something that you love about you or something that you wish could change? And many times we, are type A people and especially entrepreneurs and maybe even Christian entrepreneurs. I know I was that way and like Brett and Vance and Evelyn and John and a lot of the people that I've worked with,, as somebody who's ambitious, who's really striving for big things, we're looking for the holes in what we are versus the things that we're great at, the things to celebrate, the person that we should fall in love with.

And so that celebration list helps to counteract that to say, Hey, you're worthy of celebration. And just like God did with Jesus, you're worthy of being loved before you've accomplished anything. Not afterwards. It's not a measurement to measure up to. It's a person to be unleashed. And then the third tool.

So we have the I am statement. We have the celebration list, and the third is the accomplishment [00:19:00] list. And I've written over 130 in my life. I invite our clients to write 20. As well as I do, Priscilla, when you get past that number five or number 10 or 15, and certainly as I was writing him down, when you get past 50 and 75 now, all of a sudden you're left with only the ordinary things.

Get up in the morning on time or I have my morning meal or I'm always at work or always going to my business on time. All these ordinary things we think But here's the thing. A lot of people don't realize that high end entrepreneurs and highly successful athletes do. If you don't celebrate the small wins, you'll never have the big wins.

A lot of people don't realize that you don't wait till you've won the World Cup or you've gotten that Olympic gold medal to give yourself credit for the things that you're doing, because those athletes and those entrepreneurs understand that if I don't acknowledge the little things, I won't have the energy to make the big ones.

And so it's, it can be the ordinary things in your life, but what you find is now all of a sudden you start to see I'm a [00:20:00] person who has a track record of success. I'm daily doing successful things in my life. And so when those thoughts come in, when maybe the revenue isn't coming in your business, or you're struggling in your university studies, or your relationship isn't working well, and you're hearing these thoughts that are saying you're a failure waiting to happen.

It's not going to work. I guess it's for everybody else. All those things that myself and I'm sure a lot of people hear. Now, all of a sudden, I have a counterpoint of the truth to that. The Bible says you'll know the truth and the truth will make you free. It's absolutely a scripture that's a statement about and understanding that Jesus died for our sins on the cross.

And we can unpack that, but that's not the conversation for today. But there's an also concurrent truth that God is telling us. Again, the Bible has instruction, not philosophy. What if he was also saying you'll know the truth about you? And as that person becomes free, right again in that same group of text, it says they see who the Sun says free is free.

Indeed. Freedom looks like [00:21:00] something lived out and it looks like you unleashed as the hero that you're created to be not somebody who is holding back waiting for somebody else to help.

Priscilla Shumba: Such a powerful exercise. I can see now how you do that exercise even the doubts because you can go back and say that's not true.

Mark Collins: Exactly. Exactly. You give yourself ammunition to win the battle in your mind. Those thoughts that you thought you had to manage that you couldn't actually have victory in. Why I wrote the book, actually, Priscilla. Life Mastery Living Life by Design, Not by Default. Everybody I know, and I'm sure you Priscilla, they live their life by default, meaning they think that my thoughts are just something I have to bludgeon with my favorite scripture, or I have to have my favorite mantra, and when a negative thought comes up I remind myself over and over again of these generic positive statements.

But it's not the truth. The truth of the matter is God created you to master your life by mastering your thoughts. Which means that, as you said, when a lie comes up, I have the truth to destroy it. I'm not [00:22:00] trying to beat it up with a favorite scripture. When it happens in my life, we're created to master our lives.

And It's in that place of having truth in place. You never see anybody in the Word of God who was equipped for the battle after they were in it. Who was told who they were and the mission they had after they were in the midst of fighting the enemies of God. They were equipped and created for it beforehand.

And in that same way, again, the Bible is instruction, not as philosophy. that's how we live our life. That's how you can master your life. That's how you can live who God created you to be. By creating these things, these truths and these weapons, so to speak, to fight the battle and win the battle before it happens, not afterwards.

Priscilla Shumba: It's very powerful what you're speaking about and I can even see it for myself that sometimes It's simple things like you know that you just have a generous soul way about you. You have an understanding that's who you are. , so when things lead you in a way that takes you away from who you are, takes you away from [00:23:00]generosity, you can quickly, identify that, Attacking who I am 

these choices are not who I am or these activities are not who I am. So even that too is really powerful. The other day I was watching someone talk about their upbringing and he said every day my father would work 9 to 5 and after work he'd cook dinner for us and he did this for 20 years.

And I thought, wow,

Mark Collins: Yeah.

Priscilla Shumba: what a daily success for someone to feed their family for 20 years. Consistently. Those things , that we take for granted every day. But what it takes to be a person who consistently shows up for your family, that's powerful too.

Mark Collins: Yeah, even in that example, I love that because it's showing you have a life that matters. Again. It doesn't mean we don't go for great and amazing successes in our life. We don't have those big dreams in our life. I absolutely desire for everybody to does it just because we're a Christian doesn't mean we can't have great success in our lives.

Throughout all of history and all of time. People have done that, but [00:24:00] it doesn't mean that we'd wait till we get to those big successes before we feel we're a person who matters. And I love, by the way, the thing you said earlier about that generosity. That's absolutely part of what we would have as an I am statement.

For me, it's a person of compassion and a mostly relevant and ready for the relationships that we're in. It would be a person of strength and fortitude in my life. Somebody who , can be counted on to be there till the end, right? And I'm sure you have those in your life as well. It's, those character traits.

And if I could unpack really quickly, the thing that you said, which is a wonderful tie in was as a pastor, I get this question all the time. What's my purpose? What's my calling? What is God telling me to do? The thing you said was absolutely profound, Priscilla, because it's exactly what I find with my students.

Whether successful or not, or on your way to success, you just don't know what avenue it's going to be in, is the answer to those things is found more and more when you start to understand who you are more and more. The question of should I take that job or should I go [00:25:00] for this entrepreneurial endeavor or that one?

Or what should I invest my time in or even in a relationship? And is this somebody that aligns with who I am? Is this God's call? Is this the person for me that God has? Or the more you understand who you are, the more you understand the life that you're to live. The more I understand who God created me to be, the answer to those other questions comes so much more easily because you understand, like you were talking about Priscilla, I understand in your life that now that we know you're a generous person those endeavors where that generosity gets to show itself those are natural moments.

What I tell people is, again, you're the answer to the circumstance you're walking into. A lot of the frankly, every person I read about in the Word of God, He creates them. For the thing that they're to do Gideon, which is one of my favorite people in the Bible and judges six He was called a mighty man of valor when the people of God were being oppressed He was told he was gonna lead them into victory over the group which it was the Midianites who were oppressing them the interesting [00:26:00] thing was from the time he was told who he was mighty man of valor and he was told his promise and it Actually came to pass where he Overcame the enemies of God there was no training in between He didn't go to military school.

He didn't go to university. He wasn't given any kind of on the job training. He didn't have a mentor who showed him all the things he needed to do. And the reason that was the case was because he was already created for the thing he was to do. He just didn't realize it yet. What you're talking about, I see so many people, we don't realize that we're already equipped for the things we're walking into.

But when you understand who you are and what you're equipped for, That identity statement, the I am statement, now all of a sudden that young person, that older person, that middle aged person, the person of any age can be unleashed they already understand that it's a guarantee that who God created me to be will be the answer into this circumstance, this business, this relationship this, job or vocation I'm walking into.

Priscilla Shumba: I think you just answered a lot of questions for a lot of [00:27:00] people in that statement, what you said that the word of God is not philosophy, it's instruction. And it's, showing us in, all the ways that look, you are already equipped for the moment.

You said you are the answer to

Mark Collins: You're the answer to the circumstance you're walking into. God never gave an answer to a person after they walked into their circumstance. They were the answer walking in. God creates you and who you are and all your gift, talents, abilities, who your identity is because he is using you to be the answer, right?

You're the reason that the circumstance is happening. You're the answer that he plants in there so that the thing that he desires to have happen actually comes to pass. And in our lives, it also comes down to our , ability to live the life that we're created for, right? I'm the person who has the business acumen to have this success to have all of these employees to create value and have, content and also have income for the areas and this families that need those things.

I'm the person who has that invention. He [00:28:00] creates you so that you have that idea that pharmaceutical idea that creates something to help with people's lives. Or you have that engineering mind that creates a valuable product or a bridge or a plane or whatever the thing is that you're doing.

You're that artistic person that brings joy to people's lives simply because of the way that you are able to write songs or craft a story or Create a narrative for people's lives. Those things on the inside. I tell people this. There's an impact that God wants to have in the world that has your name on it. And that's the thing that is going to not just create difference and change and blessing in the world, but absolutely make you feel like I'm living out the passion of my life. That's my goal and my desire for the people I work with that you're again. I use the term on purpose that you're unleashed as a hero that you're created to be because I know for a lot of folks, we talked about it earlier.

There's success that you can get a pat on the back and have great levels of income and feel empty inside. But there's [00:29:00] fulfillment where I can feel like this is exactly the life that I'm created for. This is who I thought I could be. This is what I thought I could do and I'm living it. And there's so much joy in that.

And I think there's also joy in God's heart because He knows who He made us to be. living less than that is not just empty for us, but it's something that doesn't bring the joy to Him because He knows. What a life well lived can look like if we were just believe who he says we are and live from that place.

Priscilla Shumba: I could talk to you forever, Mark, thank you so much for this. Even as you were talking, I thought of even the life of Moses. How he was created from the beginning as he was. But unfortunately, the first incident that he had in his life that he thought this is the end was him thinking that this is what he needed to do.

And yet he hadn't been given the instruction of what to do. The calling was still there. He even doubted that, no, I can't do this thinking of the history that he had run away [00:30:00] from and what he had experienced, I can't do this. And the Lord says, Who made you 

Mark Collins: Exactly. Yeah, that's absolutely right. I love that.

Priscilla Shumba: Connecting back with that who you are Such a powerful message changing your life one thought at a time please get the book mark collins is the author of life mastery living life by design Not by default. Thank you mark. Where can people connect with you as well?

Mark Collins: Thank you for asking. I try and be a one stop shop. So for me, everything that I have is on my website, which is at freedom dash four dash life. net freedom dash four dash life. net. My course is out there, which is the life master course we talked about. I have actually an electronic copy my book.

It's an ebook out there on my website. What I love about the ebook is you can get it in your, phone, your tablet, your computer. You can have it wherever you go. You can also buy the book on Amazon, but if you get the ebook, obviously you can take it everywhere.

And what I call that is the. shortcut guide to your life master journey [00:31:00] where you can read a chapter today, apply it this week and have transformation this month. So all of those things are out there on my website for folks to be able to have resources for their own life mastery journey.

Priscilla Shumba: Thank you mark. That'll be in the description. Please look for that. I'll link it at the bottom and you can You Learn more about Mark and thank you for this amazing conversation and to the audience, please live by instruction, live by design. Thank you.